NVCOD - 11 October 2005
National Veterans Coming Out Day
1,000,000 LGBT Veterans COME OUT for
the 65,000 service members who CAN'T!
Meet the LGBT veterans who proudly served our nation, and who are now Out
and Proud. anonymous veterans are placed in order simply for ease of organization. We will be adding
continually as more registries come in, and National Veterans Coming Out lists come in from AVER's 24 local chapters.
Out & Proud LGBT Veterans
| Coming Out: 10=great / 1=bad
Mr. Glenn A. Patterson - Florida - Gay
USAF - Jun 28 1965-Jun 21 1969 - E5
Military nick: Pat
self-identified in service: Yes
Out since: 1967 - Coming Out: 10
honors & citations: Commendation medal for meritorious service while in Vietnam.
Bio: I lied; I certainly did not want to be identified as Gay at that time. My four years in the Air
Force were wonderful. I started in Texas, then went on to Vietnam (during the Tet Offensive), and then to
Italy. It was such a rewarding experience, something I feel everyone should be able to enjoy. It taught me
a lot about living and working with people. I traveled, and just generally enjoyed every phase of the experience.
As a general rule I did not feel threatened at that time, of course one did not announce they were gay. A
lot of my friends were also gay. We enjoyed each others companionship. It did not seem unusual at all for
gays to be serving in the military.
I actually came out in Vietnam. Although I knew I was different, coming from a small town, I did not really
know there were others. So Coming Out in Saigon was a lot of fun also, and really a load off my mind. It made
me realize there was nothing wrong with me, and a lot of people to commiserate with at the same time. My supervisors,
if they noticed, and I am sure they must have, treated me fairly. I cannot say I was discriminated against
in any way.
EXCEPT THAT I HAD TO LIE TO GET INTO THE AIR FORCE.
Miss Margaret K. Penn - New Jersey - Lesbian
USRA - Sep 9 1992-Feb 18 2005 - E4
self-identified in service: Yes
Out since: Apr 1994 - Coming Out: 9
honors & citations: Distinguish Graduate of the Defense Mapping School - Printing and Bindery Specialist
MOS 81F. Overseas Service Ribbon (2) (Panama, Belgium), Army Service Ribbon, Humanitarian Service Medal, Korean
Defense Service Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal (2), Army Good
Conduct Medal (3), Army Achievement Medal (3), Army Commendation Medal (2), Joint Service Commendation Medal
(US Army NATO), Joint Meritorious Unit Award. Marksmanship badges (Rifle-Expert) (Grenade-Sharpshooter) (Machine
Gun-Marksman), Operator badges (Driver-W) (Operator-S), coins for various volunteer activities such as; funeral
detail, parade detail, and mail room support; various letters and certificates of Appreciation and Commendation
Bio: I had little idea what my orientation was when I first joined the Army. I just figured I hadn't
found the right guy yet. I was even still a virgin. My first duty station was S. Korea were I was asked
by an older woman solider if I was “family”. I was vaguely familiar with this term because of
a bisexual male friend from back home and so told this woman ‘no’. While there, I also became
fast friends with a female solider who had a boyfriend, but I still thought she was awesome. I fell in love
with her, and struggled with that feeling for the rest of my tour, then it was time to PCS to Panama. It
was around this time I began to think of myself as being bi-affectionate.
In Panama, my first lover pursued me; we where together about 3 months and she decided
to quit the service. She told her company commander she was gay in order to get out. I met my second girlfriend
soon after and in 13 months she quickly took me for everything I owned and I was paying back credit cards
for 3 years afterward.
Looking back on Korea, I believe there were rumors that I was gay even then, because two
years later at Ft Bragg I met up with an enlisted male soldier with whom I had worked in Korea. I found
out he had been spending rumors before I’d even landed at Ft. Bragg. My ‘lesbian’ platoon
sergeant put those rumors down, plus it didn’t hurt that I was pregnant at the time. I later miscarried,
which I feel was for the better as I had only gotten pregnant because my second girlfriend wanted a baby.
(A very bad reason for having a baby, and for having sex with men to reach that point, and I haven’t
been with a man since those days.) I did have some problems with that solider and another who always threatened
to turn me in; to which my reply was always “prove it”. Most of the friends I made after I came
out to myself in ‘94 seemed to be other lesbian soldiers and civilians. They introduced me to the
local gay and lesbian bars near the base, where I met even more gay soldiers. Then it was time to move on
again.
Working at S.H.A.P.E. in Mons, Belgium was the best duty station. Europe has a very open
atmosphere and that seemed to filter down into the military services and ranks as well. Having co-workers
of all types of nationalities and military structures was enlightening. Europeans in general aren’t
as hung up about a person’s sexually orientation. No one cared what you did at home as long as you
did what you were supposed to at work. General Wesley Clark’s administrative office had one gay male
with whom I became friends. He too commented how the European environment was more open.
In Europe in Aug 98, I met the woman to whom my heart still belongs. We met in a nightclub
in Brussels one fateful night. We used to have some hairy moments in the barracks until I was finally granted
on post housing after which everything was smooth sailing. She was able to get a working visa for the US,
then her green card. We were luckier than some who cannot find a way to bring their non-citizen partners
back to the US to live together.
I came to the end of my contact and left active duty behind. I wanted to go home to the
US and be with my partner. If gay marriage had been legal in the US and gays allowed in the service, she
would have been able to stay with me and I would have stayed in the military longer. As it is, I did 9 years
active duty, plus another 3 years reserves after returning to the States.
Rev. Troy D. Perry - California - Gay
USRA - Jun 1965-Jan 1967 - O5
Military nick: Butch
self-identified in service: Yes
Out since: Jun 1965 - Coming Out: 10
honors & citations: (not listed)
Bio: I was openly gay in the military, stationed in Germany. I had a top secret NATO crypto clearance
and was a cryptographer. Yes, I have an honorable discharge.
Mr. Ray Post - California - Gay
USN - Oct 1941-Jun 1946 - E4
self-identified in service: No
Coming Out: 6
honors & citations: Honorable discharge
Bio: I was with many Navymen on a ship heading for Hawaii on December 7, 1941. I was looking forward
to meeting up with my Dad and older brother who were there and survived the attack on Pearl Harbor. I have my
father's uniform, the one he wore at his retirement. It is heavy with ribbons and awards. I would love to wear
it in a parade, but my legs won't carry me for the long walk. While I knew men were getting together on ship,
I did not join them out of fear, since my dad was an officer.
.
Mr. Michael Prah - California - Gay
USN - Jul 09 1973-Jun 12 1975 - O1
Military nick: Admiral
self-identified in service: Questioning
Out since: May 1975 - Coming Out: 7
honors & citations: Highest Rank Held: Midshipman 3/c, USN (U.S. Naval Academy) DOD Service Medal, Pistol
Expert Medal, Rifle Sharpshooter Medal Appointed to USNA by Congressman Clement Zablocki (D-WI)
Bio: I spent one year at UW-Madison in the NROTC Scholarship Program. I had a strong attraction for
my male peers but did not understand it. The following year, I was appointed to the USNA, West Point and the
Coast Guard Academy. I took my first choice of USNA. My career goal since high school has been to command
a nuclear powered submarine, and in July 1973, I was on my way when I entered the Class of 1977. I successfully
completed my Plebe year and did a two-month summer training cruise on a surface ship.
My major was Meteorology and Electrical Engineering. As a 3rd Classman (Sophomore), I was
a squad leader for a dozen Plebes in the 31st Co. I was extremely attracted to one of my Plebes and I made
several passes at him until he finally agreed to have a tryst during Spring Break when most of the Academy
was gone. We had two encounters and it was then that I realized that I was indeed a homosexual.
My Plebe claimed to be straight. He told his roommates about our tryst, and it did not take
long for rumors to spread. Shortly thereafter, we were questioned by our CO. I broke down and admitted to
the affair. I phoned my parents and told them about the trouble. They went ballistic and disowned me on the
spot, claiming I had disgraced our family.
The next day I was interrogated by the Naval Investigative Service for over eight hours
without a break. It was tape-recorded and typed up, and I was forced to sign. I was accused of homosexual
activity to include Sodomy. They said if I cooperated, I would not be court martialed. I was 22 and overwhelmed.
I purchased sleeping pills and began to take them one afternoon when my roommate walked in, took the pills
away from me, and reported it to our CO. I was admitted to Bethesda Naval Hospital for therapy. I was put
in the female mental ward because they thought I would be harmed in the male ward. During my psychotherapy,
I never admitted to being a homosexual because the investigation was pending.
After ten weeks at Bethesda, a terrifying experience, I was returned to the Naval Academy.
I went to a Midshipman Conduct Hearing where the Commandant told me why I could not be a naval officer. One
of the reasons was that I could be blackmailed by the Soviets (Cold War) and forced to give up top secret
information. Another reason was that I could never command the respect of the men under me. I told the Captain
that if I were openly homosexual that I could not be blackmailed and that Navy discipline would take care
of the respect issue. I was ordered to be discharged. At that time (1975), the Naval Academy did not want
the media to get wind of homosexuals among the Brigade of Midshipman so they struck a deal. If I would voluntarily
resign, I would be granted an Honorable Discharge and my records would be sealed. They said they did not want
to jeopardize my future civilian career. At the same time, they did not want the media exposure of what had
happened. I agreed to their terms and was discharged.
I returned home reluctantly with nowhere else to go. I lived there for a confrontational
year and got an Associate Degree in Television Broadcasting. After I graduated, my parents kicked me out and
I stayed with an uncle before landing a great job in Chicago at CBS-owned WBBM-TV as a video tape technician.
I was a vacation relief temp employee and was offered full-time if I could learn how to edit news video tape
for air. I learned editing mostly by instinct and got the job. Within a year I was the top editor, and I was
nominated for an Emmy Award for a series I did with Bill Kurtis (Discovery Channel) on Africa. I also edited
a series with Gene Siskel (deceased) on the film "Saturday Night Fever".
In 1979, I wanted to work in Hollywood so I applied to transfer. I got a job at Television
City in Post Production Editing. Soon, CBS Network News got wind of my news editing experience and the News
Division commandeered me to work in the LA Bureau. I was one of three news editors there and traveled extensively
in the Western states covering breaking news, including the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power plant protest, Mt.
Saint Helens eruption, Harvey's Casino bombing, and all of President Reagan's trips to his Santa Barbara ranch.
I worked for CBS for 18 years until I had a nervous breakdown and have been disabled since then.
I am now a gay rights activist and joined the LA chapter of AVER in 2004. I still dream
what career I could have had commanding a Nuclear Submarine and am still resentful over how I was treated
like a criminal because of my sexual orientation. It took my parents over five years to accept my life mate
David. David died from AIDS in 2002 after we spent 25 years together. Today I am a widower on disability.
The goal for my remaining years is to make it easier for the young gays to live without discrimination. I
wish I could have been legally married to David. He died in pain in his bed at home because he was afraid
I could not be there for him if hospitalized. This hurt me and gave me even more reason to work for gay rights.